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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jan 3, 2010 8:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cliff Hucker, can you seriously just lay off?

Cliff picks and chooses whom he likes and then either ignores or (in my case) attacks the latter under psuedonyms. I had an annoying go of it some time ago. It's a shame that there are two Cliffs. The one is a remarkably insightful and knowledgeable Deadhead whose posts I enjoy. The other is an insecure prick who is intolerant of anyone who steps on or near his foot regardless of intent. It's always a shame to me when the intelligent ones lower themselves by behaving the way Cliff does.

Kochman on the other hand: you run a piddlywink little GD site that doesn't see much traffic and that really exists because you don't get along with folks here. I suspect that is as much you as anyone else. Bringing your Cream Puff War to these pages simply exposes the toadiness that led you to leave in the first place. Posting Cliff's i.p. addresses serves only to underscore your own pathetic need for attention. Why not actually post something about the GD rather than about yourself?

Sure, Cliff should shut his fucking mouth--we could all do some of that--and stick to what he does best--champion 1968 and keep pointing folks to some of the best damn music ever played. And Kochman--stick to your little corner on the internet where you can be king. I'm afraid that here you are just another annoyance.

And I'd conduct a poll about that background before pissing on s/he who would criticize it. You do not speak for everyone, even in your own kingdom.

This post was modified by ghostofpig on 2010-01-03 16:07:28

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Poster: kochman Date: Jan 3, 2010 5:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cliff Hucker, can you seriously just lay off?

GoP... not sure why you decided to attack me, I certainly have never wronged you...

you did get one thing right though; places like LSP, other forums than here, do exist precisely because of the crap that goes on here daily...

don't need a weatherman to figure that out

This post was modified by kochman on 2010-01-04 01:21:56

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 3, 2010 8:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cliff Hucker, can you seriously just lay off?

Er, uh...no, Hook, the only one I know, certainly does not exist for this reason. It in fact was started long before the shit hit the fan here, and amazingly, withstood the Full Scale Hostile Takeover of most LMA types, and keeps right on rolling along (well, okay, it was a weak-knee'd attempt at getting to know some nice looking gals on our part...). Virtually all the regulars hereabouts posted there on and off, save Rob (no pun intended, Scotty), so that one isn't in the mix you refer to. But, did you really intend to admit your site exists solely because of us cranky Forumites? That's sadder than I imagined. You have got to be better than this.

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Poster: vapors Date: Jan 3, 2010 5:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Kochman, can you seriously just lay off?

Back so soon?

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Jan 3, 2010 5:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Kochman, can you seriously just lay off?

must be the LSP syndrome!

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jan 3, 2010 8:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cliff Hucker, can you seriously just lay off?

"Cliff picks and chooses whom he likes and then either ignores or (in my case) attacks the latter under psuedonyms'."

I'm sorry GOP, I'm not looking to rikindle any hostilties with you, Ive long since buried the hatchet with you.

Of course any trouble we have the had in the past had to be entirely my fault, its inconcievable that you could have possibly had any part in contributing to it.

You are wrong about one thing though. I have never once posted at this forum under any other user name, not once ever. But I know that you cannot say the same. How many user names have you gone through here, by the way, orchidcosmicuncle...

Not sure why you feel you have to drag all this ancient history up now, but peace to you anyway!

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jan 3, 2010 1:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cliff Hucker, can you seriously just lay off?

Nothing would please me more than to bury the hatchet with you and discuss the 60s Dead.

I do think you should let Kotchman go. He isn't worth it. Now, about that 12-29 show . . . .

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 3, 2010 3:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cliff Hucker, can you seriously just lay off?

Hey! I thought I WAS personally responsible for that show?! Well, okay...CLIFF gave me "approval" and I willingly took the job on!

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Jan 4, 2010 12:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cliff Hucker, can you seriously just lay off?

I don't know anything about Cliff attacking people under another name. To me that sounds like a "Nature Channel" documentary called "When Cliff Attacks" or something. I like reading his insightful posts here about great shows (because we have similar tastes)... plus he always seems so friendly, inviting people to come fish with him and all.. I'm just saying...

kochman on the other hand seems to live to hassle with people and call them names for no other reason than that they disagree with him. Here is a pleasant exchange myself, and others, had with him a few months ago.

Could he in fact be Dick Cheney?

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=241348

And BTW, posting someones name and street address here (before he later modified it) is fucked up!

This post was modified by SkyDawg on 2010-01-04 08:48:26

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jan 4, 2010 5:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A simple question about fruit...

Koch has some issues, it might be Gulf War Syndrome, but I suspect that he is dealing with more than that right now. He has done alot more than just broadcast my IP addresses, post my personal information and link to my facebook page.

Over the weekend I received several harassing phone calls from him, a barrage of spam from gay porno/dating sites that he registered me at, and he has posted an interesting thread about me at his website where a google arial photo of my Florida residence has been posted. This all in spite of the the webmasters statement at LSP that "this information will not be disclosed to any third party without your consent" so much for Kochmans word of honor. Just a word of warning to those who register at his site!

I was forced to contact the Tampa police and file a complaint with a detective there. If any of you are having similar problems with Koch, or suasponte (one of the other user names he goes by here), I can provide you with the telephone and case numbers. I would certainly advise anyone considering registering at his website to think twice before doing so!

The truth is that I have posted a few times at his site, but it has been nearly a year since I have participated there. Around last January/February he started spamming the LMA forum with invitations to his site and getting into nasty political arguements with folks here and trolling this place up. At that time I posted some goofy stuff over there. I never really attacked anyone there, never PM'd anyone, I didnt post anything terribly hostile, malevolent, or even particularly disruptive. Mostly I commented in threads on music or shows in Italian (I used to live in Italy), or inquired why there were advertisements for gay sites at his forum. I have not posted at LSP in nearly a year, I'm not sure what it is Koch wants me to stop doing over there.

One time though, I did cause a rather large disturbance there, by asking a very naughty question. It caused quite an uproar there at the time, but I never got an answer to my question. So I am going to ask the same question again here now:

Which fruit do you think more closely resembles a lubricated vagina, a juicy Mango, or a ripe Crenshaw Melon in September?

I suspect Kochman is dealing with some personal problems right now. I feel sorry for him that he is so disturbed that he felt compelled to take the actions that he recently has. Lets hope he gets the help he needs, there are resources out there that provide help for veterans like him.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jan 4, 2010 6:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A simple question about fruit...

I'd rather tango with the Mango.

If I was wrong about you two years ago, I apologize.
I would welcome the chance to engage you in intelligent conversation, even if you did go to the 'dale. (Post smiley of your choice here).

Kochman: simply put, you're behavior is over the top.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jan 4, 2010 7:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A simple question about fruit...

I wasnt the washed up NFL quarterback guy (I hate football), or anyone else for that matter, but I apologize too!


smiley face Pictures, Images and Photos

This post was modified by Cliff Hucker on 2010-01-04 15:03:24

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Jan 4, 2010 9:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A simple question about fruit...

"Washed up quaterback...."

That would be Tom Brady.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jan 4, 2010 7:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A simple question about fruit...

Cliff:

It cheers me greatly that we can be friends. I am glad that this did not occur before my 40th H.M. reunion in October or they would no doubt have kicked me out for fraternizing with a Riverdalean. (40 fucking years. Jeezus).

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Poster: mcglone Date: Jan 5, 2010 9:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A simple question about fruit...

hi cliff,

posting personal information is bush at best. kochman was way out of line. but, here is a link that has you doing the exact same thing...

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=119425

another thing i don't understand is how kochman is being called out for spamming the forum by offering a link to his grateful dead based website and it's ok for you to drum-up pub for your charter business.

for what it's worth i have never once paid a visit to LSP or 'the hook' - LMA is home. i'm not taking sides, i think both of you guys came off looking bad (as we all do time to time)just noting the hypocricy.

ian




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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jan 5, 2010 9:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A simple question about fruit...

Hi Ian,

For one thing, I dont have a charter business, Im a commercial fisherman. I'm not drumming up business for anything! When I post fishing photos I'm just tooting my horn. Would you like to come fishing next summer?

For another, the link in that old post was not related in any way to anyone who has ever participated at this forum.

Finally, I have not posted at Kochmans site since last February! He seems determined to perpetuate all this bullshit...

Dennis

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Poster: kochman Date: Jan 5, 2010 11:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A simple question about fruit...

More lies from "masons owner"...
And, I "perpetuate" this? I have asked you how many times to have peace? Several, for all to see...
Yet you keep on posting about me, telling lies about me, etc...

You were just again proven to be a liar, by someone completely different, and somehow you circle back around and attack me AGAIN...

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Poster: mcglone Date: Jan 5, 2010 4:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A simple question about fruit...

thank you very much for your offer dennis! very kind. i have never fished open saltwater but would love to give it a try one day. i'll definitely file that away. if you ever find yourself in my neck of the woods (and you're at home in a canoe) i'd be happy to introduce you to some very serene central ontario lakes - well off the beaten path. big home made muddler minnow/popper cross flies, shallow water and tarpon like pike!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 5, 2010 4:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A simple question about fruit...

There is a town in north Ontario,
With dream comfort memory to spare,
And in my mind
I still need a place to go,
All my changes were there.

Blue, blue windows behind the stars,
Yellow moon on the rise,
Big birds flying across the sky,
Throwing shadows on our eyes.
Leave us

Helpless, helpless, helpless
Baby can you hear me now?
The chains are locked
and tied across the door,
Baby, sing with me somehow.

Blue, blue windows behind the stars,
Yellow moon on the rise,
Big birds flying across the sky,
Throwing shadows on our eyes.
Leave us

Helpless, helpless, helpless.

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Poster: mcglone Date: Jan 5, 2010 5:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A simple question about fruit...

spot on! and with that i shall end my day brother tell.

ian


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Poster: rastamon Date: Jan 4, 2010 12:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A simple question about fruit...

Cliff:
I'd go with the juicy Mango, then maybe Bessie, but only if she's at least 18 in bovine years to human years conversion.
The wolf is married and Bessie's anguish is real.

not sure about the mango

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Poster: pHurthur Date: Jan 4, 2010 2:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A simple question about fruit...

YUMMMMMM, Mango

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Poster: kochman Date: Jan 5, 2010 6:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A simple question about fruit...

nope

This post was modified by kochman on 2010-01-05 14:47:04

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Poster: kochman Date: Jan 5, 2010 6:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A simple question about fruit...

more lies from "masons owner", who doesn't post under other names...

This post was modified by kochman on 2010-01-05 14:52:51

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 4, 2010 6:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cliff Hucker, can you seriously just lay off?

Hey SD--really enjoyed scrolling thru that, and if I may say so, you handled yourself exceptionally well. I noted that the profanity laced tirade started without nary a hint of a nasty word on your part. And, I even found my insertions with respect to the book on Verdun I was reading at the time! Jeezzz, can't believe it's that long ago now.

Anyway, those threads remind me of how many "right thinking" (non-directional, non-political sense) folks that I am proud to know populate the Forum.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Jan 4, 2010 12:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cliff Hucker, can you seriously just lay off?

Skydawg:
"And BTW, posting someones name and street address here (before he later modified it) is fucked up!"

I AGREE! If Koch did that, he is now official SHIT in my book.Period. Moreover, I hope I can delete my rather unused account at the LSP.
(I did agree with his political views though)

This post was modified by rastamon on 2010-01-04 20:34:36

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Poster: pHurthur Date: Jan 3, 2010 7:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cliff Hucker, can you seriously just lay off?

HEY GoP, what was Gina's last name again ?